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We were listening to another podcast that talks about... They're going through a list of things that make you gay. Am I mistaken or was falling down one of them? It

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has

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to have been

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at this point by now. Tripping, definitely. Then

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I've been really gay this week. How

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many times have you fallen?

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Three times in two days. Didn't you

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fall last, Sif?

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Yeah. I rolled the shit out of my ankle. I was crossing the street to avoid some people that were asking me if I supported transfer. No. Get away from me. No, but it was so funny. I was actually coming back from a screening at midnight on the bus. And it was raining really hard. So the bus is all wet. And it was dumping. It was dumping. It's been it's raining right now. Yeah. And the bus was coming up to the stop and it was slowing all the way down. It was right at the stop. And they did like a brake check right as I was getting up. Like they suddenly just stepped on the brakes. So my feet slipped. I landed on my ass. I hit my... So your feet came out underneath you. Yes. Landed on the stairs. Hit my elbow. And someone did try to catch me, thankfully, which was very nice. Good effort. And it was embarrassing enough that someone was like, oh my god, are you okay? But no, I'm great. This is actually how I get off the bus. I do this all the time. And then the next day I went roller skating for a friend's birthday. This will help me next time. I did great. Up until the last go-round, I failed Roller Skating Yeah, it was fun. So anyway, that's my story of how gay I am this

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week.

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Welcome to the

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haunted

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hotel.

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You can check in, but you may never check out. Welcome to the haunted hotel.

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All right, everybody, welcome to The Screaming Room, the only podcast about movies. This is your co-host, Sam, and I'm here with my co-host, Ralph. Hi, Ralph. Hey. I'm liking your bandana era, by the way. Thank you.

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I've been wearing it in place of like a hat because it's not as hot. I have a lot of hair on my head. And it gets thick and it's long and I haven't cut it. So I pull it out of my eyes by tying it with a bandana. And I think I was joking to somebody about I'm in my David Foster Wallace era. No, I'm not going to kill myself. Don't go too far with that. I'm just wearing

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a bandana. Wearing a bandana, considering the lobster and... calling john up deck uh i think he called him an erection with a thesaurus

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in praise of lost highway actually that might yeah that kind of layers with some stuff i watched so

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cool well i just a little bit of housekeeping at the top of the episode here um I know we've said it in multiple episodes that we're going to cover until dawn. We will do it. I just finished my replay of the video game, but we're going to wait until it hits streaming, and then we're going to cover it. We're also going to get to Bloodlines, the new Final Destination movie, eventually. But we are putting that off because this week marks the beginning of the Seattle International Film Festival in... And we are going to be talking about new releases, or I guess some of them aren't even technically released yet. We're going to be doing some quick little reviews of what we've been seeing at the film festival. We're going to prioritize, like we did last year, anything of queer or trans interest and, of course, horror interest, which I have to say overall, just as like a top level thought here, Not as much horror this year. Yeah. Yeah, we had some bangers last year. I mean,

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we had a straightforward slasher. And a violent nature. We had a more sort of cosmic existential horror in I Saw the TV Glow.

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Yep.

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And Red Rooms being sort of a true crime kind of thriller, but sort of the horrifying maybe... Consuming parts of being part of that.

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Red Rooms just gets better the more I think about it. It really does. That's a must-watch, listener, from SIF last year. Check out Red Rooms. We also had Oddity played at the festival. That's right, that's right. And we got the long-in-production... Full Moon feature, The Primevals, which I believe we saw at... Did we go to a midnight screening of The Egyptian? Yeah, we did do the midnight for that one. That was a blast. Yeah. That's one of my favorite Full Moon features, I think. Absolutely. But this year, like I said, the pickings are a little bit slimmer, but we're going to get to what we can. We still have a new film from Kiyoshi Kurosawa. Coming up, a couple screenings available for that. But we're going to do our brief little reviews of what we've seen. And if there are screenings coming up, we're going to let you know. That's mostly going to be good information for people in the Seattle and adjacent areas, of course. So apologies to international listeners. But some of them are also going to have online... streaming available. So we're going to try to call that out when it applies. Cool. Yeah. All right. Well, why don't we start with the opening night film? I'm going to kick it off and we're going to go back and forth a little bit here. So opening night at CIFF, they were playing a film called Four Mothers. Directed by Darren Thornton and written by Colin Thornton. This movie follows Edward, who's a novelist saddled with caring for his elderly mother. He finally finds himself... Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! I really like that description. Wild, eccentric and wildly different ladies. This movie is it's a great opening night selection. I believe this is also available in the UK already. Cool. It's it's just like an over the plate. smalty, heartwarming little comedy. Last year we had Thelma, which I actually, for however cheesy it was, I did really enjoy that film. Oh, yeah, I loved it.

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It was a very low stakes action. kind of comedy movie with June Squibb, who I believe has some other stuff coming out soon, too. Maybe she was a presenter at the Oscars this year.

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Oh, yeah, that's right. I was like, I almost met her, but she was tired and she had to go back to the hotel. This movie is pretty funny. There's a lot of exactly what you'd expect with like... these these gals not getting along it's kind of this kind of bit where it's just four differently kind of rude old women yeah and then contrasting that with the gaze acting out and then our lead character kind of stuck in the middle Edward stuck in the middle it wasn't it wasn't great but it did put a smile on my face here and there it's it's really nothing groundbreaking but, um, I can't say it wasn't charming in places. Cool. I'll definitely check this out. Yeah. I, I will say, uh, if anyone, if, if three of my gay friends did this to me, I would kill them straight up. I mean, you're dead. Yeah. Sounds, uh, yeah. Yeah. So it's, you know, it's a, it's a comedy. So I can like kind of get over the fact where I'm like, I kept saying to myself, like, why would anybody do this?

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Yeah. This is so horrible.

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Yeah. The situational comedy aspect of like, but would you really put up with this? Why would you even, why would my friends even consider this?

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What if these old birds were chirping? Yeah. Yeah. So that was Four Mothers. Check out the trailer. See if it's your taste. All right. What do you got, Ralph? What's

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your first one? The first one I watched was a movie called Billy. This year, SIF has a lot of documentaries, which I do really like. At the same time, I'm like, put more horror. We at least got a horror documentary. I don't want to learn anything. I know. But the first one I watched is called Billy. And I'm just going to read the little blurb from the program here. In this compassionate yet disturbing documentary, director Lawrence Cote Collins inspects the life of former filmmaking friend Billy Poulin, now in prison for murder, through his own stockpile of video footage and deconstructs the effects of untreated schizophrenia. Sorry, I paused kind of weird there to make that sentence sound strange. Friend Billy Poulin, now in prison for murder, through his own stockpile of video footage. She's gone back through his own archive of video and is looking at him and his schizophrenia. Going into this, this one I can say a full thing on it. I'm not going to give away too much, but I kind of want to talk a little bit about it because I was expecting it more to be like a true crime kind of documentary, which in part way it is, but it's, it honestly doesn't even mention, I mean, it mentions that he killed two people, but they don't really mention who those people are because they're sort of focusing on him and his schizophrenia. And I did, I mean, like it is sort of weird to maybe not include so much of the victims, but at the same time, I kind of liked that aspect of the, there's so many of these documentaries about, you know, people getting murdered and it does the sort of twin peaks, Laura Palmer thing where it's like this victim that you just, you keep seeing these same images of them and it's sort of, it's, um, exploitative and manipulative and it feels kind of gross to the victim's family a little bit. Yeah. But, um, this movie, uh, goes into his schizophrenia and his, um, psychosis. And it was extremely touching and, uh, made me cry. Um, cause there's moments in there that he, he, you know, he, he becomes aware of what he did when he was in his absolute, just full mania psychosis. Um, and he, he, he feels terrible, but he doesn't, he doesn't, you know, skirt responsibility. Uh, Yeah, I think it's a really, really eye-opening movie to watch if you've never come into contact with anybody or if you have never known anybody with schizophrenia. There's even a moment where the two of them kind of try and visually and auditorily create something that looks and feels like what someone in a higher level of their stage of... schizophrenia episodes, like what it would feel like. And I thought that was really frightening. It sounds intense. Yeah, it's very intense. So I would say definitely check this out. It's called Billy. And it's interesting because he was a filmmaker and there's this element of his own fantasy world of the movies that he made and then that sort of bleeding into his real life of not being able to discern reality from from what he's creating.

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But yeah. Yeah, you put this on my radar after you saw it. I'm definitely going to check this one out. And if you want to see Billy, you can... That

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one, unfortunately, has already gone through all the in-person screenings. Yes, I was just going to bring that up. But is it... I'm sure this will be available virtually.

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It'll be available if you go to sift.net. And click on the film festival. You can get the full list of films, including Billy, which is going to be streaming online for CIFF from May 26th, that Monday, through the following Sunday, June 1st. So you can get it on there. Awesome. All right. I think the rest of my movies up until we get to the end here are going to be a little bit lighter. Well, kind of. This next movie made me cry. So I watched. I also watched a documentary called Cat Town USA.

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this movie is about a couple Terry and Bruce Jenkins who run the Cats Cradle Foundation which is a living community and hospice center for senior cats and these cats that for one reason or another have no place left to go but still have a lot of love if not life left in them so as a cat owner I cried through this entire movie laughing It feels a lot like almost like a Christopher Guest kind of thing, like with the way they kind of frame Terry and Bruce and some of the other, let's say, personalities, if not characters. Yeah. You know. in their orbit but there's a lot of really cute cat footage there's a lot of sad stories in here you know because a lot of times when you know a cat ends up at a shelter at an old age it's either because they're sick or because their owner passed away or can't take them in anymore take care of them anymore but the little cat town is very very cute this is built or this is expanding on A short that was actually at CIFF in 2019. Directed by Jonathan Napolitano. And I really did love this movie. Even though I kept grabbing my cats throughout it. Because it was stressing me out. Yeah. Awesome. My cats are only five. We still have time.

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Yeah. I've been putting off watching that. Because you told me that it made you cry. And I'm... Yeah, being a pet sort of care provider and a former cat owner and having experienced multiple pets throughout various stages of their life, it's... Oh yeah. Cause like some of the stuff on like the silly stuff on like Twitter, Instagram, the videos that really get me are these stories of animals being like rescued or abandoned when they've been abandoned and they're rescued. I'm just sort of like, oh, that shit breaks my heart, but it's happy because it's like, they get, they get this other life, they get more love and it's, oh

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yeah, absolutely. And that's like, and that's the same caveat I would get. Like, it can be kind of a hard watch if you've just recently lost a pet or you have an elderly pet. This might be, you know, you got to find yourself in the right mood. But along with that, it is really like heartwarming and inspiring in places. So it's kind of a bittersweet movie, but I did really enjoy watching this one. So that's Cat Town USA. And if you're in Seattle, you can see it Thursday, May 22nd, or Saturday, May 24th at SIF Uptown. And it will also be on SIF streaming from the 26th through June 1st. So Cat Town USA, I say check it out. Awesome.

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Well, the next one I watched is called Paying For It. I was... This one immediately caught my attention because it is written and directed by, or excuse me, adapted by Sook-Yin Lee, who did this movie Short Bus, as well as multiple other ones. She also collaborates with John Cameron Mitchell a lot, who I believe was in Hedwig, The Angry Inch, and a number of other things. Cool. I remember the first time I shot, I saw short bus and it kind of shocked me because it was sort of this like, wait, that's real,

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but this isn't porn,

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but

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yeah. For those that don't know short bus has a unsimulated sex. And yeah, I mean, these people are

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fucking. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not like, it's, it's not what you're maybe expecting. Like it, I mean, there's a couple moments maybe like that, but there's, it's more intimate and sort of just, Like, whoa. So I was, like, so into that. And when I saw this in the list of movies and her name by it, I was excited. So the little blurb about it is that Sook-Yin Lee adapts her own ex-boyfriend's welcomely tender autofictional graphic novel centering on a Toronto-based cartoonist who begins hiring sex workers when he and his partner break up but decide to keep living together. I can say what I want about this. I love this movie. It's extremely, extremely charming and touching. It's very odd. I think I described it to you as a queer heterosexual story because this guy goes to... Yeah, he starts... He realizes that he doesn't want a romantic relationship anymore after his partner is sort of like, oh, I want to pursue this... This other thing that I might be falling in love with someone else. I want to see where this goes. So he's like, okay. And so he just decides to go try out seeing sex workers. And he finds that he loves it. And he finds a specific one that he ends up seeing for a long time. And it's just very, very sweet and very unconventional. And Uh, yeah, just a really warm and it's very funny too. There's a lot of really good dialogue and these characters are really, really fun. Uh, so I would say absolutely check out paying for it. It has passed the, it has gone through the theaters at SIF, but I believe this will be available

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online. It's not on the SIF streaming service yet. I'm actually trying to find out now, but, uh, no release date info in terms of streaming keep an eye out reviews of this are really good yeah keep an eye out for

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it it's uh the actors are great too it's the acting is wonderful and uh

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yeah the trailer made me laugh this is definitely one i'm gonna i mean we still have our little press screeners but i'm definitely gonna watch this before the end of the festival this looks great yeah it's yeah it made me feel good um so yeah Okay, my next one is also a comedy. I think we accidentally kind of paired these up kind of nicely. Oh, good. This is getting a little bit closer to our wheelhouse because it's a genre film and a comedy as well. Cool. This is called Time Travel is Dangerous, directed by Chris Redding. This is a British comedy. And it's about these two friends that run a vintage shop. And one day they discover in the trash a time machine built out of a bumper car. And they start to use it to go back in time to collect different objects to sell in their store. And that leads them to hooking up with the group of nerds and inventors... that originally created the machine. And they realize there are a lot of repercussions towards using this time machine. And it gets very wacky, very absurd. It's extremely goofy and good-natured. There's a lot of good laughs in this. The only thing that really held me back from loving it is it's like... It has that fake documentary style that The Office, especially both the UK and the US version, that that show really cemented in the format of television comedies, and it really breaks out into film a lot. I hate that style. I really do. The handheld... camera with like the zoom ins on someone looking down the barrel of the lens I hate that shit sort of winking asides to like the camera people the film crew that you never really see in this is just it's not funny anymore it's

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that like did you get that and it's like yeah I'm literally filming a movie right now I'm filming it we're filming it we got it

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yeah yeah Yeah, so I hate that bit. But otherwise, time travel is dangerous is generally a good time. It gets really wacky. And the core concept of using your time machine to run a vintage shop is, I think, is really funny. Even though it kind of abandons it partway through and then gets back to it, like, near the end. I like that concept. And these personalities in the science club, let's say, are pretty funny. There's a lot of gags around the different inventions they're making. And it reminded me a lot of Mystery Science Theater. They have the invention exchange bit. Oh, fun. It's a lot in that style. So it's a lot of those kinds of overly complicated gizmos that do... a very specific or small thing. Yeah. Something like that. Those jokes are fun. Yeah. I really liked the, the two lead actresses in this, especially. So, yeah, I think overall, if you're looking for a little bit of a laugh, like a lot of the SIF programming and a lot of film festivals, I feel like generally can be pretty heavy. And this was a good, bit of counter-programming to some of the more serious stuff because I did also see a movie about genocide this week and I was like in kind of a weird mood after that

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yeah from watching it in the news to watching it in a documentary or sorry not a documentary a fictional version another

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documentary Yeah. So, yeah, that was Time Travel is Dangerous. That's playing on the 23rd and the 24th. So Friday, this Friday and Saturday. Both at TIFF Uptown. Yep. And then it's going to be on streaming 26th through June 1st. So, yeah. Excellent. If you're looking for a laugh, check it out.

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I'll definitely put that in my watch for the next few sessions here. Cool. Cool. All right. The next one that I'm going to talk about is a movie called Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass.

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What a title.

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Yeah. And this one is out of the UK. I will say the first two movies I mentioned, Billy is out of Canada, out of Quebec. So it's in French. And then Paying for It is out of Canada as well because they're in Toronto, I think. This one's out of the UK. Also, I guess it looks like Poland and Germany with it too. So this is a stop motion movie. This

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one looked cool.

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It's really

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cool. The trailer's dope. It's really cool. Or the little clip that they gave us is dope.

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Yeah. It's got some sections in it where it's live action, but they do it in a way where it sort of looks like it's sort of from the silent film era, even though there is sound in it. And there's this object that someone... Actually, let me read this blurb, and then I'll kind of get into some of the specifics. So this is directed by Stephen Quay and Timothy Quay. So the brothers Quay spin another fantastical stop-motion yarn with this surreal story inspired by the work of Polish writer Bruno Schultz about a young man on a ghostly train ride toward a sanatorium... All right, this

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sounds like it's getting

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closer to the horror genre. Yeah. It's fun. There's this weird object, like I said, that they sort of are looking into, and it's sort of like there's this story that's unraveling about this man on a journey. And it's really, really fun. It's... Cool. Creepy. And I mean, there's stop motion is always going to be kind of eerie to me because it's, it's uncanny and it like, you can make it look so gross and grotesque and weird and just the movement of it doesn't look natural. But this also, uh, there's a lot that really felt, uh, inspired by and sort of maybe doing a little homage to, um, David Lynch and specifically an episode in the return, uh, I can't remember which one, Twin Peaks, The Return, but it's an episode where we see Dale kind of floating in this weird space, Ether, and there's a lot of just impressionistic stuff that's happening. There's a lot of repetitive kind of like zoom-ins and zoom-outs of these spaces and the way that it's lit and even the mechanical things that's happening. In this movie, they're looking through this sort of like... Uh, porthole that kind of looks like the gold orb that's featured in that return episode. It's, it's really cool. I really, really liked it. It's, it's a eerie spooky and it's, it is kind of like, what's, where are they? What's going on? Uh, I loved it. I mean, I think stop motion is really, really incredible and very, um, uh, admirable there's so much work and effort that goes into

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that stuff and it's yeah something that we were talking about a little bit last year too with especially the prime evils like the amount of work that and craftsmanship that goes into stop motion is always really impressive to me like i animation in general like i'm like i don't know how we as a species are able to have the capacity to even do this. Sometimes it just blows my mind. Like it's just not something I'm built to like do. Yeah. Certainly are like fully understand, but when it's done compellingly, man, it, it really knocks my socks off.

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Yeah. Uh, the, there is one more screening happening on Friday, May 23rd at 1 PM. It's at SIF downtown, which is, I believe that's, is that the AMC? No,

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that's the old Cinerama. Oh, okay, that's right. So that might be, that's one of the best screens in the city. Cool. One of the best places to see a movie in Seattle. The only caveat is that the seats recline. And you can't stop them. One of my films I'm about to talk about, I saw down there. And when I sat down in my seat, I was like, fuck, that's right. I forgot about these goddamn seats. These goddamn seats. Well, go right into it. So that was called Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass. Yes. Great. So... Do you have one more before we get into the ones that we both saw? I have two more. Okay, perfect. I also have two more. So my next film is called Struggle Without End. This is the one that I saw at SIF downtown. Oh, wait, where did my notes go for this? Hang on one sec. I'm struggling without and. This is a New Zealand film. Oh, that's right. It's sorted under the non-English title. So this is a Maori language film about the 1864 Battle of Orakau. as an indigenous tribe defends their land from invading British forces. This movie looks really good. I think this is an important story. Definitely seeing it on the Cinerama screen helped it out a lot. It's a very frustrating and dark period in history, especially for the Maori people, because this is early in the The genocide that the British would perpetrate against the Maori people in New Zealand. And you get some text at the beginning and the end that kind of explains and bookends like where this specific battle kind of falls in the history of the Maori people in the history of New Zealand and kind of lays out the ultimate story. devastation of those people that would be done at the hands of the British I left this movie in a very weird mood I I think it's again I think this is an important story I don't think this is a great movie I think there are moments of greatness in it I think it looks awesome I thought the cast was phenomenal the narrative was just okay I And yeah, again, I think this is a commendable film and an important story. And I'm glad it's being programmed here at CIFF for sure. I don't know if... I think all the screenings of this one are done for the festival. I believe this may be available outside of the U.S. already. But as of now, it's not streaming here. But I would definitely recommend looking into this to see if this is in your interests. Because, again, it is a commendable film, just not a great one. But that's okay. So that was Struggle Without End, directed by Mike Jonathan. Yeah, check it out.

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Cool. All right, the next one that I watched was called Invention. Ooh, yeah, I want to see this still. So I'm going to read this little blurb here. Callie Hernandez co-writes and stars in this inventive auto-fictional indie that evokes the tone of a Haruki Murakami detective story as a daughter investigates her estranged late father's experimental health marketing schemes. That is quite a description. I mean, this... Immediately caught my attention because in this it says Callie Hernandez, in parentheses, The Endless, which is a movie I really love. And it's by, I forget their first names. Benson and Moorhead. Benson and Moorhead. And she's in that one, The Endless. They do a handful of other kind of weird sci-fi kind of...

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Yeah. Where, what is this? Yeah, they've built out... this interesting little sci-fi universe across their four feature films, I think. Yeah, they do some cult stuff too, don't they? Yeah, that's part of it, but it's still all in the same universe. The Endless, I think, is the cult one. Oh, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. So this one, like that little blurb says, she's investigating... specifically this one invention that she's inherited the patent of from her father because her father has died and she goes to talk to some of his co-workers and colleagues and fellow scientists and inventors and they all kind of seem really really interested in wanting this patent the product because they're kind of asking her like what are you going to do with it and she's like trying to figure out what she wants to do apparently this product was on the market but then suddenly uh, you know, the, whoever us, I don't know that the institutions that be, I guess they, they pulled it. And, you know, sometimes there's, I think there's history, a history of in this country, the United States that, you know, people come up with ideas and somebody gets wind of it or gets ahold of it. And then they take, they'll take it from you and they'll exploit it and they'll, you know, make money off of it as their own. And so there was kind of questions of that, like maybe he was assassinated for this thing. But honestly, it's not that important in this. It feels like it's kind of this woman who is sort of, I don't know, wanting to figure out how to keep her father alive because she's sort of learning about her father through all these people. She's grieving him because he's just died. And there's these really interesting, like, you know, infomercial kind of footage that they'll splice in of these different like wacky health devices, like things that supposedly tech, you know, we're trying to just elongate our lives and, you know, keep our, our bodies as healthy as possible. And it's kind of, it's, it's interesting. It's, it's, it's, they, they described it in this blurb as like a Murakami detective. And it does sort of feel like it's kind of subdued, but it's also like, weirdly in its feelings and kind of... It does sort of feel like there's a little... It could be a noir if they leaned a little more into that kind of realm. But it's interesting. It's a little quirky. It feels like a very... This feels like a film festival movie. If that makes sense. I kind of get what you're saying there. This one and the next one that I will talk about, they feel like film festival movies.

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These are weird. The style of this looks kind of cool. I did see it was shot in 16mm. Yeah,

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so it's got a graininess to it that I kind of liked. Honestly, it sort of feels like a film school movie. It reminded me a little bit of some moments in Lose by a singer. Tillman Singer. Not the movie Lose that's playing at SIF this year. No, not that one. It was a different movie. Same spelling. Different movie. But yeah, this one was, I don't think everybody's going to like it. There's not a lot of like, it doesn't get really interesting. exciting. Okay. So it's, it's more of a simmering kind of moody kind of, Oh, that's weird. And then you get to enjoy, like I said, all these kind of weird infomercial inventions of, of tech devices that may or may not exist. I can't remember if some of, I think some of them are real, but some of them may have been sort of just made up or, you know, taken from other people's sort of starts of inventions that, yeah.

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Okay. Well, I might, I might still check this out. I think you would like

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it. I just, for our listeners, I'm not sure everybody would enjoy it, but if you like Benson and Moorhead and you liked Callie Hernandez and that, I think it's a really interesting little story. So,

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okay. Yeah. So yeah, that's a invention, uh, by Courtney Stevens. Yes.

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Sorry. The director is Courtney Stevens, who I think was also the other co-writer.

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm seeing here. Uh, so check that out. Uh, Or don't,

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if you don't like weird shit. It's not screening in theaters anymore. The last one was a couple days ago, but it might be online. I don't know. It seems like one that would be available, but I said that last time and it wasn't. I

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know. I don't know. This one I don't think is available to stream yet. Okay. But yeah, that's invention. All right. We did do a good job of pairing up our... reviews here i think accidentally because i'm going into another 16 millimeter film i so right after i saw that depressing genocide movie i went to the theater to see fuck toys uh written by directed by and starring anna perna shriram This is a described as a lush 16 millimeter fever dream that reimagines the fool's journey of the major arcana of the tarot through the story of AP, a rosy young woman seeking salvation from a curse. She is promised by not just one, but multiple psychics that it can be lifted for a cool thousand dollars and a simple teeny tiny sacrifice of a baby lamb. So I went to the late screening of this. It was sold out. I thankfully was able to get in with our press pass, but I was really, really excited about this. This is a queer and trans-oriented story. It feels a lot like a John Waters movie. There are elements of it that feel like Uh, like there's a little bit of trauma world building in there because they, they refer to it as like trash town USA, basically. Cool. Which makes me think of trauma bill. Yeah. And like, uh, it's, it's just this wild, like road movie. It's about AP, this main character, you know, uh, trying to make a thousand bucks so she can get this curse lifted off of her. And throughout her journey, she, uh, She meets basically different characters that match up with the different cards in the Major Arcana. And yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff in here. And along that journey, there's a lot of sex work. And I think that's depicted really well and in a really funny way that I really appreciated. I am not a sex worker, but there's... A lot of examples of problematic representations of sex work that drive me fucking crazy. I saw this again like with a sold out audience and the energy was like really high. People were loving this. And I did love right at the beginning. Well when I got into the theater like in the lobby they're playing like. uh big frida and like just bounce music hell yeah and i like asked the concession person i was like is this big frida she was like yeah she's like big frida's in the movie i was like oh i didn't know that like i'm so excited uh so big frida plays the uh the first psychic uh in this film but she's she's so much fun like i i just love her uh if you don't know uh Big Freedia, she's a bounce musician. She's got this incredibly huge voice. I think I described her to someone recently as like her voice, whenever she shows up in a song, it sounds like a genie coming out of a bottle. Just announcing herself and commanding you to do something.

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But

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I really like this. I thought there was some really fun trans mask representation in this as well. Hell yeah. Oh, I'm excited. AP's sidekick is Transmask. Hell yeah. So yeah, they're the second character in this movie. It's just a blast. The story is ridiculous. It's all over the place. But it's about the journey, not the destination. So yeah, this is a huge, huge recommendation from me. This is one of my favorites of the festival so far. Cool. If not my favorite. It's just an absolute blast. Awesome. And it was really funny. Because I was in the pass holders line, we got in first, which is nice because then you don't have to ask everybody as the theater fills up, is that seat taken? What about that seat? So I just snagged something in the aisle. And I realized as the theater filled up, I was like, oh, I think a couple of the filmmakers sat behind me. And I was overhearing their conversation, and then Anna Perna said her name to someone else. I was like, oh, I'm sitting in front of the director. The writer-director star. Star. It was kind of funny. So I was like, oh, that immediately made me a little self-conscious. I was like, okay, don't touch my phone. pay attention laugh but it was easy to do because uh i i i really did love this movie and it was kind of funny too i'm like you see her boobs a lot at parts of this movie i was like oh she's sitting right behind me you just turn around you're like

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Nice.

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Nice. Good job. Give the thumbs up. She has a 1312 tattoo on her shoulder as well. Oh, you're cool. She did a little Q&A at the end, which was fun. Hell yeah. But then I left as she was answering the last question to get on the bus that caused me to eat shit, as I described at the top of this episode. But that is Fuck Toys, directed by Anna Pernaschura. Uh, yeah, again, big, big thumbs up. Uh, I think that's about to hit streaming. I think in the next month is what I read. Um, cause it's just finishing all of its, uh, festival dates, but definitely put that in your watch list. If, uh, John Waters or trauma or 16 millimeter hallucinatory tarot based adventures appeal to you.

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Cool. Well, I, uh, This year, starting off the festival, I've been a little bit busy and preoccupied with some work, so I haven't been able to make any in-person screenings yet. Um, so I did, uh,

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through a lot of films though. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. There's, they've, they've had a lot of movies available, uh, to the press, uh, through these screeners this year, which I really appreciate. And I did reach out to the, the SIF press team to see if I could get a screener for fuck toys because I do really want to see it. Uh, and they said they're, they're going to get back to me. So they are. Okay, cool. Yeah. They're, they're great. I, I really appreciate them. Yeah.

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The SIF press team is there. They've been very, very sweet.

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Yeah. Good to us. But so my last one before we do our overlap, I'm just going to do a short one because this is just a capsule review one. It's called By Design. Playful... Oh, God, I don't know how to pronounce this fucking word. Playful provocateur...

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You got it.

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I haven't said that word out loud in a while. Amanda, playful provocateur, Amanda Kramer has crafted another audacious performance art based piece of absurdist satire about fetish and desire as a lonely woman, Juliette Lewis swaps bodies with a chair only to find comfort in life. so yeah so it's directed by amanda kramer like it said uh stars juliet lewis uh mamudu athi samantha mathis robin tooney who we know from the craft and some other things but um yeah just like that said it was it it's oh melanie griffith oh yeah she does the narration Oh, great. Yeah. Why have I not seen it? It's got a couple of other people in there. It's got, oh, Joe Swanson from You're Next. Oh, yeah. He looks very different from the whiny brother in that movie. Oh,

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wait. Udo Kier's in this, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. I

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forgot. Udo Kier's the designer of the chair. Oh, perfect.

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Okay.

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It's got a lot of people in it. And it's about, yeah, body swapping with a chair. And it's fun. I think you'll like it. So I think you should check it out. Okay. Should I do the show times? Oh, yeah. It's coming. We can see it. You can see it. Oh, boy. Tomorrow.

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Yeah, this episode might not be out by tomorrow.

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So I don't know. Is it going to be out Wednesday the 21st? If it is today, 4.30 p.m. Oh, God. If it comes out before 4.30 p.m., it's at CIFF Cinema

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Uptown. Cool. And then this will also be on CIFF streaming after the 26th. So, yeah. And I believe those are for the streaming... I believe that's available internationally as well. I did see a couple of films are limited to Washington state specifically. Uh, but I don't think that applies to anything we've talked about today yet. Um, okay. I do. I just realized I missed count. I miscounted. I have one more before we get into our final two films. Um, I, uh, I'm not going to say too much about this film. Uh, But I do want to bring it up. I was able to see the directorial debut by Ava Victor called Sorry Baby. This one is picked up by A24. It's going to be the closing night film at CIFF. This is sort of a tragic comedy, kind of a serious dramatic comedy. Yeah. about Ava Victor's character. And again, we have another triple threat here. She writes, directs, and stars in this movie. And basically, this is a story about a woman's journey after something tragic happens to her, which I think it's fair to say involves sexual assault. And it's about the absurdity of the world around her as she processes that and, yeah, tries to deal with it, let's say. This movie is extremely funny. Extremely, extremely funny. This is a great... directorial debut by Ava Victor, who I previously only know from that one TikTok video where she killed her husband. I

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definitely did not kill my husband. Oh,

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it's so funny. I'm excited to see this. I'm going to go to bed. You're going to love it. This is one of the other best films that I've seen this year at the festival. I I think a lot of people are going to get a lot out of this movie. I'm curious what the release is going to be like for A24 because I could see this having some broader appeal. But it's just a fantastic, fantastic film. The absurd stuff that she experiences in this is so great where she's like, you know, she's dealing with like the doctor after the assault and she's dealing with you know the people at work because this was one of her co-workers that perpetrated this and it's just it's just a more realistic I think look about what this type of assault is I think a lot of films tend to sensationalize rape in ways that are supposed to be dramatic and kind of offensive a lot of the times and this yeah this movie kind of is an examination of the effects on the people that this very often and far too often the people that are often affected by it I So this was great. And that being said, it is also funny. So don't let the heavy subject matter necessarily scare you away. And I will say the incident is not depicted on screen. So if that's something that you might be concerned about, I'll just let you know now. That's going to be the closing night film at SIF. That's going to be on May 24th at downtown. And then I don't think I have the release date for this one. Oh, June 27th. It's hitting theaters. I do have that in front of me. So definitely get out and see this. It's... Yeah. Yeah. It's great to see a movie... about this topic made by women and, uh, I believe about their experiences. I'm not sure if that's particular to Ava Victor, but, uh, yeah, I think it's an important perspective and it's nice to see it in this, again, this kind of bittersweet way where it's like, you know, yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, I, I think it could get tiresome to, see these depictions and stories of this stuff and just sort of in this way, leaving you just sort of feeling like distraught and in despair and just sort of like, Oh, I'm, I'm, they're wounded forever. You know, they're just going to be forever kind of feeling, you know, like, yeah, there's, she, there's other, other ways that are, that are of being after certain, you know, I don't know.

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yeah no I hear you I hear you like there's people process these experiences in a lot of different ways and this is about a character trying to find out how she can process what happened to her and I think that's an important story to be told and in in this film it's again it's presented as like an absurd type of process where she's like she's not sure how to do it

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yeah

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And I think that's a pretty common experience.

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Hey!

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Great, my cats are getting into the chips. Hang on one second. Let me pause this very serious conversation.

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All right, well,

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let's get into the last two of our viewings here. These are two that we both saw, and these are properly in the horror genre. Our first film... is going to be Chain Reactions, directed by Alexandre O'Philippe. He does documentaries predominantly around genre and horror films. His last film was Lynch Oz, which is an exploration of David Lynch and his obsession with The Wizard of Oz. He's also done documentaries on Alien, Psycho, and a film that explores zombie fandom, and a film that explores Star Wars fandom. That was actually pretty popular, I believe, back in 2010.

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Interesting.

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So Chain Reactions ties back into a franchise we just finished. This is about the legacy of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. We can't get away from it. This song is life. So this film is based around four or five different interviews with different creatives. And each of these individuals sort of talks about the film's legacy and what it meant to them. So we've got Patton Oswalt, Takashi Miike, Alexandra Heller-Nicholas, who did Woodland's Darkened Days Bewitched. the documentary about folk horror. We have the God, Stephen King, who brings up Skinnamarink in this movie. And then Karen Kusama. So five great talking head features in here. Absolutely. This was when we got the initial list of SIF films, I was like, I can't fucking believe this movie's in here. The timing was just perfect. I had a lot of fun with this, especially coming off the heels of our franchise rewatch. How about

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you? Oh, I had a great time. I mean, I think I kind of texted you about it a little bit, but the fact that we just did all this deep dive on all of these movies, and especially the first one, the hearing, basically all of these creative people say a lot of the things that we have said. And I mean, like, you know, there's stuff that's been said about it over and over again, but as well as like other, other interesting personal sort of relations to the movie that all of them had. And it actually made me, uh, come up with a few Takashi Miike movies to watch for Shocktober this year. Cause I was like, Oh yeah, I need to see these. And I, of course I should have realized that this kind of movie and, uh, Also, I think the one thing that stood out to me is that all of them very specifically vividly, you know, hold on to that, that hook scene, that meat hook scene. And I just think that's really incredible. That's just that a movie like that can be, you know, The best horror movie of all time, if not the best movie. I think I even said that to you. Watching this, it just makes me feel more like this is the best maybe movie ever.

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Kind of a bold statement. One of the best American films for sure. It's the kind of thing that feels like... it does feel like one of the most American films, if not just one of the best American films ever made. Like it feels like something so unique to this country that it couldn't have arisen from anywhere else. It's, it's such a unique and powerful film. And yeah, you can tell through these five interviews, like just how much of an impression it made on these extremely good, creators I did love that they brought Patton Oswalt on because he's the only one that's not I don't think he's ever directed anything yeah I believe everyone else has yeah super fan he's just a super fan and his joke about the title of the movie is it's been burned in my brain since I first heard it it's so funny that's really great all right Maybe I'll drop the clip in here, but they played at the beginning of the documentary. And it's just a great way to kind of get into the legacy of what this film is known for. Yeah, the legacy of this film. And it starts with that fucking title. Like, it's such a good title. It was so good it was banned.

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Yeah.

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yeah yeah yeah and it's it's also amazing to me that like I think we talked about it a little bit that it was like one of the titles that they were considering was like what was it head cheese oh yeah Saturn in retrograde in retrograde it's like oh my god can you imagine seeing that title at your drive-in like no pass boring boring Um, did you have a favorite, uh, talking head interview in this, by the way? Uh, Karen

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Kusama. Um, she was, I, her movie destroyer is might be in my like top 20 movies ever favorite. I just, I just, I knew you loved that. I just, it's, oh man, it's such a performance. It's a, it's a really simple story, but the way that it's done is I, so I, I really liked it. And everything else that she's kind of been involved in. I think she was directing a lot of the first season of The Yellow Jackets. She did a handful of other things I really like and has been a part of. So I just, I liked her. seeing that she also loves this movie so much. I mean, it's, I think if you're going to be a director in a, in horror at some point, he, you gotta love this movie.

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Like, I don't know. I don't know if I want to see a horror director that doesn't have an appreciation for this film. I don't, I don't know how that would work. Yeah, really. But yeah, this was, uh, I think generally the appeal of this film is going to be mostly for horror people. I think it's going to be hard to get a wider appeal here. But but this is one of those movies that's just like is so indelibly like I think I'm using that word right connected to like American pop culture that everyone has. Every American has an understanding of it and outside the US of course as well like Takashi Miike talks about that a little bit yeah when that movie came to Japan and he's like I think he compares the the shock that he felt watching this to like seeing grave of the fireflies yes yeah he just couldn't believe what was on the screen uh and it's yeah so it's it's really fun to hear uh these people talk about a movie that we we both love and yeah i uh yeah i thought the uh the five voices that they chose were were perfect

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yeah

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All right, so that's Chain Reactions. It'll probably be streaming soon. I didn't find a date for this, actually. I think all the... Am I right in thinking that all of the screenings for SIF have gone by? Yes, they have. So unfortunately, it's not screening at SIF anymore. But yeah, if you're a horror fan and you're a, especially if you're a Texas Chainsaw fan, 100% seek this out. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Ditto. All right. And that means we've got one last film to talk about here. And that is called, this film is called The Wailing. The Wailing. And no, it's not the Korean film from 10 years ago. Actually, let me pull up the synopsis here unless you've got it. I've got the one in the program.

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Yeah, read it. All right. Three women separated in time and space are unknowingly connected by a threat that nobody can explain. Something is stalking them and provoking unthinkable acts of violence with one eerie thing in common. the disturbing sound of a wailing.

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That's about right. Yeah. I, this is one of the like proper horror genre films. Uh, this is a, a very spooky supernatural film that is from Argentina, I think, or I think there's multiple parts of it. Yes. Spain, France, and Argentina. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh, I really enjoyed this. I had to watch this in two sittings, though, because I started to fall asleep. And when I got to the end, I was like, I did. I'll be honest. I was like, I might have missed something. I had to pull all of them together. So I'm going to give this one another go because there are some very good scares in this movie. Yeah.

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I loved this movie. I loved it. It's got like three parts, essentially. And they're each following, like this said, different timelines of them. And this first woman is more in the present time and some weird stuff starts happening. They do some awesome stuff with like the phone and sort of shadows in the back and like really eerie stuff. People start dying kind of brutally. It opens pretty violently. It's got a really good kickoff. And then you go back in time and you kind of see maybe how one of the These people back in time might be related to this woman that we followed at the beginning. Um, and there's this same sort of figure that's appearing through the handy cam of this film student and it's really creepy and it's really eerie and it's got some really good, like, you know, like zooming in on some like stuff in the background. Um, there's some really good, yeah, just like stuff with, uh, I can't remember if it's like a lighter or something. There's a nice, like light. There's a very good lighter. Yeah. That's spooky. There's, it's like, it's really good. And there was at one point where I, I, I thought that this was going to be a standard kind of like, Oh, it's mental illness being passed down through generation or like trauma. But, um, I found at least my reading of it was that these women had, uh, gone through abuse at the hands of a man, uh, and had just sort of continued that cycle of abuse of like not stopping it. Cause there's a moment, I mean, maybe we should cut this out cause it's giving away, but just,

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I don't want to give away too much about this at the

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end that really ties it all together. I'll just say that. Um, so I think, I think that there's something about that, about abuse, uh, that's that these women have been suffering and you know, how hard it is to break that cycle. Um, but yeah, Because this specter, this figure you'll find is, you know, sort of significant of what the specter is, I guess. Yes.

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Yeah. And it does have like this movie does have a feel that's comparable to like it follows in kind of aesthetic. I would say that I think a lot of horror people would find appealing. Yeah. I'm trying not to give too much away I do want to say though that

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this was the other film that I wanted to bring up in regards to Lost Highway because there's especially there's I love this movie because it goes back in time where there's this film student making a movie on her handy cam and there's some stuff that like really feels like some shots from Lost Highway where it's like I mean there's a lot of David Lynch stuff where it's a red room with like a light behind you and they're on the phone but like it really there's this weird you know oh I'm you know I'm in your house now I'm following you like oh I've got a camera on you you know like it's really really eerie and just oh yeah

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I love this hell yeah like this is directed by Pedro Martin Calero I have not seen his other film I oh it's just a short film excuse me I'm just pulling up his director credentials right now so this is a debut feature from him pretty impressive actually I definitely recommend this. I'm going to watch it again. Like I said, I had to do it in two bites, which I should not have done. I

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might go see it again because we've still got one more screening at Pacific Place on Sunday, May 25th at 6.30 p.m. I think I'm

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going to try and go there. So if you're in Seattle, downtown Seattle on the 25th, Um, yeah, let me know if you go to that. I would, I would love to see this with an audience too. And like, there's, there's so much like spooky lighting and like dark moody settings in this that, uh, even on my, my TV or my computer screen, I, I was like, oh, I kind of want to see this on a big screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially with some of the, uh, let's say the scary scenes. Yeah. I wanted a little bit more detail. There's some good

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sound stuff, too, that I think would be really good to have the, like, ooh, it's coming from all directions, behind me, in front of me, beside me kind of thing.

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Well, yeah, and this is the... Again, this is the first, like, straight-up-and-down horror movie that we've watched for the festival, and it's a strong one. Yeah.

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It might be the only one that's gonna really, really...

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check

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as

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many boxes Sif if you're listening hire us to do your programming for next year we do horror programming yeah but still there's been a lot of great films so far and a lot more to come we've got another week and then yeah everything hits streaming so that was The Wailing And like we said, that's playing Sunday the 25th. And then streaming date TBD. So if you're in the Seattle area, get out and definitely see this in person at AMC Pacific Place. Go to sift.net for more info. Of the films that we've talked about today, do you have a standout favorite?

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It's probably The Wailing or... What was the other one that I... I've already forgotten. We did just talk about like, what, like 15 movies or something. Yeah. Oh, um, paying for it. I think. Okay. I'm definitely going to watch that. Yeah. That one looks like fun. Uh, yeah. I'm, I'm really excited to check out cloud by Kiyoshi Kurosawa. Yeah, I'm really excited about that. There's a couple others here that I'm excited to go see in person. Sorry, I was leaning away from the microphone. By the way, speaking of

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Kiyoshi Kurosawa, I had a friend that works at one of the pubs around here. He came up to me the other day and he was like, have you seen Cure? I just watched Cure. I was like, Cure? I'm not making fun of this. I was like, yeah, it's one of my favorite movies. Uh, so yeah, that's, yeah. I mean, I'm a huge Kiyoshi Kurosawa fan. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm excited about that. Uh, yeah. My big standouts aside from the whaling, uh, like I've already mentioned, uh, Fuck toys. And sorry, baby. We're both fucking great. Hell yeah. And yeah. Yeah. So if you have a chance to see either of those, I'll just say it again. Definitely, definitely check them out. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well. Thank you everybody for listening to The Screaming Room, the only podcast about movies this week. We're going to be continuing our Seattle International Film Festival coverage. We'll probably have another episode in a couple days, maybe a few days. Once we stack up, bank a few more viewings, we'll come back with another roundup just like this one. Yeah. Thank you all for listening. And thank you again to the team over at SIF for being so generous. Yeah. Thank you, SIF. Thank you. Thank you. So check out SIF.net. That's S-I-F-F dot net. And if you're enjoying the show, please give us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Mobile. It helps us get discovered by new listeners. And if you'd like to support the show with money, click support the show in the show notes. And in the future, we're going to be doing the Hellraiser franchise, and we're going to continue our Final Destination franchise coverage. eventually uh and then i can update people about my new tattoo which i did not want to bring up in this episode but that'll be mentioned in the final destination episode yeah um and as always find us on social media both instagram and twitter uh search the name of the show that is the screaming room you will find us there uh And you can email us at screamingroompod at gmail.com. There, I think I got everything.

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I think you did. I think you did. And we will get to Until Dawn.

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Yes. Again, I just finished my replay of the video game, too, so I want to do it while it's fresh in my mind. It's wild how many people are in that. I forgot that, like, Rami Malek and Hayden Panettiere are both in the video game. Oh, shit. Wow. Yeah. There's a few other names in there, but we'll get to them when we finally cover that. Yeah. I'm excited to watch it. I've heard it's bad.

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Woo!

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All right. Well, thank you again, dear listener. And until next episode, may all of your film festivals be international. Yes. Goodbye.

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